Dysgu gwersi

A note to members of the Llanelli constituency Labour Party


There has been a big disagreement within Welsh Labour. There has not been a ‘witch-hunt’ against Vaughan Gething, but there has been a genuine conflict of values. Now there is an appetite to quickly move on, but I think there’s a real danger that in shutting down discussion we will neither understand nor learn the lessons of what has happened. 


As uncomfortable as it will be I think we need proper debate about the future direction of Welsh Labour. Circling the wagons around a ‘unity candidate’ may bring some short-term relief, but it will do nothing to address the fundamental need to renew in office.


I’ve not given any interview and don’t intent to, but as a way of making sense of it all I’ve written this assessment which looks at what should happen now and an analysis of how we got to this position. 


These are offered in the spirit of honest debate and not point-scoring.



Edrych ymlaen


We’re in a pickle. After 25 years as the largest party in the Senedd, and 102 years as the party of Wales, we have become the establishment. 


Our opposition is weak, and so like many political systems where single parties dominate we turn on ourselves from time to time in order to check power and keep ourselves honest.


We are currently in the midst of the biggest schism since 1999, when the ‘pluralist’ section of the party embodied by Rhodri Morgan went ten rounds with the ‘machine politics’ section of the party represented by Alun Michael, and beat ten bells out of the each other. Those bruises took a decade to heal.


The last four months has seen the same happen again, albeit beneath the surface. The inevitable resignation of Vaughan Gething has brought that into the open and now party leaders are desperately trying to keep a lid on it by brokering a quiet deal to avoid any further open conflict


How do we ‘heal the wounds’ is a question that bleeped across my WhatsApp frequently over the last week. The instinctive response being offered up is to come behind a ‘unity candidate’ and all will be well. I completely understand the instinct, and necessity, to pull together in common cause. 


Disunity is a genie that is very difficult to get back into the bottle. But unity is not an end in itself; if that becomes our primary focus it risks a search for the lowest common denominator. 


Unity is a consequence of renewing in office. It is the end result of a process to reach an agreement. It follows an exchange of ideas and is not some precondition for a contest where the less that is said the better. 


There are honest differences, as there should be in any group of intelligent adults let alone a political party. We need to talk them through, test the arguments. Persuade and then decide.


We are not a management committee, we are a political movement. We were created for a purpose - to bring about change for working families, to challenge power, to make society fairer, and be a voice for the voiceless. That requires a passion, a hunger, and courage to reshape and reform ourselves as a political force to meet the modern context, in order to do the same for our society.


I think the new MP for Swansea West, Torsten Bell, hit the nail on the head, “The question”, he said, “is whether social democrats can turn themselves from simple defenders of the system into insurgents”.


That’s the real challenge to the people who wish to lead.


In a brilliant speech to a Labour Party conference in Manchester some years ago now Bill Clinton told delegates that unless they presented themselves as the agents of change somebody else would fill the gap. “Make no mistake about it”, he said, the question for voters “is not whether you will change. It's how you will change and in what direction”.


The central question of this leadership contest should be how we can meet the appetite for change in a way that honours our values as a political movement?


If we can’t answer that question then this may well be our Scottish moment.  


After the collapse of the Labour Party in Scotland Jonathan Powell, the PM’s Chief of Staff through the whole Blair period in office, said that Scottish Labour had become a hollow tree - all it took was someone to come along and push it for it to fall. Nobody wants to hear this at the moment but this could well apply to Welsh Labour too. 


There's nothing inevitable about any of this. The difference between us and Scottish Labour in 2011 is that we have a long-record of devolved governments to be proud of, and a proven ability to stand up for Wales. 


But the voters aren't daft, and the warning signs are clear enough for those who want to look for them in the General Election result. Whereas the Westminster voting system this time flattered us, the new more proportional voting system we’ll be using in Wales will be far less forgiving if our support levels don’t get back beyond the 30% threshold. The last YouGov poll put us at 27% at a Senedd election - just 4 points ahead of Plaid.


The d’hondt voting system we’ve legislated for will actively work against us if our numbers stay at that level and a generation in the wilderness awaits.


That’s where we’re heading as I write, and people are panicking and so the ‘we must unite’ banner is quickly pulled up the flagpole and the call has gone out to rally round. My worry is that a superficial unity is in fact counter-productive. We have to be prepared to do the hard work of remaking our unity based on a real consensus of approach. Not a backroom deal to avoid having to go there.


I have been boringly consistent on this point. Ahead of Rhodri Morgan standing down I urged the party to challenge ourselves into focusing on what a programme of reform looked like. To talk about ideas.


When Carwyn Jones stood down I again urged colleagues not to flock to candidates until they’d heard what change they would advance (there’s a clip of me saying just that that’s survived!). “Labour does not have a divine right to rule," I said at the time; "We have to show people we have a vision for change".  


And when Mark Drakeford said he’d be standing down I set out my view on some policy challenges in a substantial lecture to the Brecon & Radnor CLP and urged those who wished to succeed him to remember that “We’re not managers, we’re agents of change”.


I can’t say I’ve had much success in persuading people, but I’ll try again.  


Yes, there is an open wound. But it will not heal itself, it has to be stitched. We need a genuine debate about ideas and policies, and an outcome which gives a mandate for a way ahead. If we duck that incredibly difficult challenge then we will have missed perhaps the last opportunity to win the next Senedd elections.



Edrych yn ôl


So how did we get to this point?


I've been writing this assessment for myself to try and make sense of a remarkable seven months in Welsh politics. Rather than give anonymous briefings or radio interviews I’ll set out my reflections openly and honestly as a contribution to the record, and to the process of figuring out what we do next.


It’s been thirty years since I joined the Labour Party. I can clearly remember the moment I first met Vaughan Gething in 1994 in Aberystwyth University Students Union. He worked the room with effortless ease, a warm and natural smile, a charm and a chuckle. And he hasn’t changed.


March 1996, Vaughan Gething, Joe Wilson MEP, Lee Waters 

I worked alongside him in Government during the awful covid period and thought he was admirable. In particular I was deeply impressed by the calm, professional and sober manner in which he absorbed enormous pressure and contributed to the grown-up way the Welsh Government handled an unprecedented crisis.   


Mark Drakeford was spot on to say in his assessment that: 


‘Vaughan is a much, much better person than he has been portrayed in certain newspaper outlets and in some of the commentary around him. I have worked right alongside him over that decade. He is a thoughtful, committed, hardworking individual who tries to do his best. Now, there's a big difference I think between trying to criticize somebody for their judgement. We all make mistakes, and we all answerable for the judgments we make; and accusations that somehow this person was not fit to be First Minister’.


I didn’t support him in either leadership contest because of honest political differences of substance (Vaughan supported Alun Michael in 1999 and I’ve firmly moved to the Rhodri / Drakeford view).  But I’ve always liked him and got on with him and I am genuinely sad that his time as First Minister came to an end in the way it did (and did try and offer advice that would have avoided this).


My criticism of Vaughan as soon as the very large donations to his campaign became known has been around his judgement in trying to work around the party spending rules to colossally outspend his opponent, and as a result rely on donations from a range of sources that were at best problematic (Interestingly even in private not one of the people who I’ve spoken to who supported him have even attempted to defend the decision to take the money).


He has never acknowledged that he was wrong to do either of those things. And his failure to confront this ‘original sin’ (as I called it in our group awayday), and his lack of humility each time he was challenged, began to be seen by people as hubris. It fundamentally weakened his position and caused his authority to ebb away.


 “The trail that eventually led to last week did begin right back there with that original decision, the fuse was lit. And Vaughan was never able to escape it” Mark Drakeford reflected two days after the resignation in a typically sage contribution.


My principal reflection of the way things have developed over the last few months is one of bewilderment that people can look at the same set of facts and reach such different conclusions.


In announcing his resignation to the Senedd he said "a growing assertion that some kind of wrongdoing has taken place has been pernicious, politically motivated and patently untrue," he told the Senedd on the afternoon of his decision to go after four Ministers resigned from his Cabinet. "In 11 years as a minister, I have never, ever, made a decision for personal gain," he said.


In his fair-minded assessment Mark Drakeford reflected:


‘I think it can fairly be laid at Vaughan’s door that at mistakes were made. Now he would defend them and he would explain why he made the decisions he made, but the criticism that mistakes are made, I think, is a legitimate one. It's when that shades into accusations that these weren't just mistakes, but these were somehow dishonest mistakes, or mistakes that were done to somebody's lack of integrity in office, that I think is completely unfair’.


To be completely clear I don’t for a second suggest any improper motivation for his conduct; but while he was learning Law at Aberystwyth University I was across the campus studying politics, and the first thing I remember being taught was that perception is more important than reality.


Set aside the much publicised stench of the extraordinary donation from David Neal, I think the equally problematic donation from taxi firm Veezu has attracted no attention. Bear in mind at the time of the leadership election we were in the process of passing a taxi reform Bill which has now been ditched, Vaughan took a £25,000 donation - which is the single largest donation to a Labour leadership campaign (before the Dawson one) - from a company at loggerheads with trade unions, who until recently was also paying right-wing Conservative Alun Cairns.   


We now have had the extraordinary spectacle of a First Minister announcing on the floor of the Senedd that we are failing for the second time to honour a manifesto commitment to bring forward legislation on taxi reform (instead we are to have a draft Bill, which is something) and being forced to add when making the announcement: “Members may wish to note a declaration of interest concerning the company Veezu”.  


Never before has a First Minister had to declare a formal conflict of interest on a key matter of Government business.


The fact it has passed without a single comment tells us something about where we have reached.


When I spoke out in the Senedd about the donations I rooted my objections in the damage this was being done to political culture, and to democratic norms.  Here’s what I said:


The point about devolution, this place, a Parliament we have created from scratch, is that we set higher standards. 25 years ago we talked of devolution as the beginning of a new politics; but the reputation of politics, and politicians, seems to be lower than ever.

 

The First Minister told a Senedd committee last week that his approval ratings haven’t been affected by the controversy. I must say that surprised me, and troubled me. Whether the polls bear that out or not, it really isn’t the point. Surely the question isn’t what any of us can get away with, it’s what is right?

 

The fact that some voters just shrug their shoulders is what should worry us. Far from being an endorsement, I fear it’s a reflection that we are all tarred with the same brush.   And we all get it - you’re all the same; you’re in it for yourselves; you’re on the make. Not only is it really demoralising for many of us who see politics as a genuine public service, a sacrifice; but it’s also dangerous to the fabric of our democracy at a time when it’s already under huge strain.

 

Academics call it ‘norm spoiling’.

 

They say that when accepted standards of behaviour, norms, are undermined, it lowers expectations. And that lays the ground for a new set of weaker standards to take hold. That is why we need to confront this situation. 



I have felt increasingly dislocated by the fact that so many people in the Labour Party have been prepared to turn a blind-eye to what the public have been able to see very clearly. But ultimately our political culture has asserted itself and acted.


The rules for the Welsh Labour leadership contest were that candidates would spend up to £45,000 to run their campaigns. Vaughan raised £251,600.


This party spending cap excluded staffing costs, office costs and costs of travel. The rules assumed that campaigns would be primarily run by volunteers and that ‘staffing’ would not be a significant factor.


I can only assume that having lost one leadership election he was determined to do all that he could to win this one, which would probably be his last shot at the leadership. He recruited a paid staff team, including the deputy political editor of the Daily Mirror, Ben Glaze as Deputy Head of Communications. Labour members were bombarded with text messages and letters within days of the contest starting. This was a well organised and funded campaign. And there’s nothing in principle wrong with that, Vaughan is quite correct in saying that he did not break any rules. But rules can’t cover every eventuality. 


I remain firmly of the view that in setting out to deliberately side-step the spirit of the spending rules he made a significant error of judgement. He didn’t need to spend so much, and shouldn’t have. It resulted in him seeking and accepting money from people who have agendas that clash with ours, and are perceived to be seeking to buy influence.


It seems that Vaughan remains unwilling or unable to confront his own role though. He was told by several colleagues after the election that he should return the donation, but chose not to. 


“If he’d said sorry about the donations, if he’d acted differently, would we be in this situation right now” ITV Wales presenter Rob Osborne asked my colleague Hefin David in the immediate aftermath of the resignation. “Yes, I think we would. This was predestined”, he replied.


I couldn’t disagree more. 


Perhaps Mark Drakeford’s response to this was the most definitive though. He told the BBC WalesCast pod: 


‘My own observation with a bit of a distance was that there was a great deal of goodwill available to him in the earliest days. I think people were absolutely proud to have the first black leader anywhere in Europe here in Wales…People who hadn’t supported Vaughan joined his cabinet and were willing to take up important positions and to be part of the government’ 


Vaughan Gething has said he tried to do the right thing ‘for other people and for the country’ to keep Welsh Labour united but people were not willing to accept his election as leader. He said:


"Members across the movement in Wales had a one member, one ballot contest, which I succeeded... There was an opportunity for all of us to get behind that result, as has happened after every other leadership contest. That hasn't been possible".


So why wasn’t it possible? Vaughan doesn’t seem to consider his own role in this.


The election result was very close. Vaughan won 51.7% of the vote. Jeremy Miles took 48.3%.  The Labour Party has refused to publish the actual number of votes he won but Jeremy’s campaign manager told the Walescast pod that the result was ‘within a few hundred votes’. 


As well as the enormous disparity in funding, the closeness of the result threw attention onto the pivotal role played by the regional committees of trade unions which overwhelmingly supported Vaughan Gething - with some very sharp practice in evidence


Add to this the fact that Jeremy had the support of a clear majority of Welsh Labour Senedd members, council leaders and Constituency Labour Parties and the closeness of the result intensified.


A win’s a win, and clearly would have been claimed had the situation been reversed. But academics point out that in order to create legitimacy the winners of elections need to establish what they call ‘losers consent’. And here was an example of a situation where the winner needed to work hard to build legitimacy and win over the consent of the losing side. 


In the first meeting of the Labour Senedd Group after the result it was clear that there was disquiet. The closeness of the result, the donations, the influence of machine politics and the fact that the majority of Labour MSs supported a different candidate all created conditions that called for a deft and humble approach.

 

Vaughan conceded a review of funding rules for future elections and appointed his rival and his key allies into important posts, but that’s as far as it went.


Mark Drakeford again:


Here's the approach that I took to trying to lead a group of 30 people. It's a very small group, which has varying views inside it - all political groups have a range of views inside that. I thought I needed to do two things. First of all, I need you to pay the closest attention not to the people who I knew were likely to be supporters of the things I was going to do, but the people who would have the biggest reservations or doubts, that's where I needed to focus my attention. 


I needed to make sure that those people who might have doubts, that I spent as much time as I could talking to them, making sure that they knew that they were being listened to and that they were included in the decisions that were being made in some ways. 


You have to take for granted that people are going to support you because they're going to support you, but you need all those 30 votes. You need every single one of them including the person who is furthest away from where you yourself might be on that spectrum. And those are the people you've got to think about, the people you've got to invest your own time and effort. 


And then secondly, I try to encourage a culture in which we tried to see the best in one another. And we tried to give each other the benefit of the doubt. Because in a group of 30 people, you know, somebody's going to say something that won't be exactly what you would have said, or somebody will have an opinion that you rather wish they hadn't chosen to in front of other people. But what you what you want to do in a small group of people is to give that person the benefit of the doubt. They're not going to be doing it for harmful reasons. And if you have a culture where people are prepared to do that and think the best of one another rather than the worst of one another, then I think you've got a bit of a recipe for keeping that difficult show on the road. And if you're not careful sometimes when things are very difficult things tip the other way. 


Vaughan did not demonstrate that level of skill in party management. 


Instead he seems to become increasingly resentful and exasperated by the fact that the story of the donations was not going away, and that people were not giving him the benefit of the doubt. He felt he was being held a higher standard than others.


There are a number of people who sincerely hold the view that Vaughan has been subject to a vindictive and persistent character assassination campaign driven by unconscious racial bias


I’ve tried my best to understand that viewpoint and was particularly troubled by the statement issued by the Welsh Labour BAME Committee which said they felt the treatment of Vaughan had “crossed a line between fair examination and racially influenced attitudes and judgements, with a Black person being held to a higher standard”. Their statement challenged members of the Labour movement not to be bystanders and to stand “firmly behind Vaughan” against this subconscious racial prejudice; “we are seeing this play out before us, and we must act to stop it” their statement added.


I am someone who considers themselves anti-racist, and as Transport Minister instructed Transport for Wales to co-produce an anti-racist plan as part of their funding conditions. However, clearly, I am not black, represent an area with very low levels of BAME people, and have only a small number of friends who are people of colour, so I am very aware of my own potential for unconscious bias.   


I met with a member of the group to try and better understand the clear pain behind the statement. We had a very friendly and constructive conversation. My summing up of our hour long conversation, which they didn’t challenge, was that quite clearly as a black Welshman Vaughan had experienced racism all his life and the bar he was being asked to meet was higher than for others. To his supporters in the BAME community in particular his election as First Minister was a profound moment of hope and validation, and they wanted his colleagues to get behind him. And they shared his frustration that people seemed unwilling to move on, in a way that they may have done had he been white. 


As the committee statement concluded, 

“There have been many moments of reflection over the last few years in which people and institutions have accepted how subconscious racial prejudice can creep into the things they do and say . We believe we are seeing this play out before us, and we must act to stop it. That is why we are speaking out, standing firmly behind Vaughan Gething, and calling on all in our movement to be allies not bystanders”.


People will make their own minds up about this. I don't believe the criticisms of his choices are driven by racism, I think it is self-evident that he made poor judgments to outspend the limit and to do that by accepting money from people that he shouldn't. That was wrong and deserved challenge. The challenge persisted because those fundamentals were never addressed.


I am very conscious however about my limits in being able to make a fair judgement about racism playing a part of how this was all dealt with, and don’t deny that this was deeply felt to be the case by some. But it is perhaps fair to say that if it is correct to say Vaughan was being held to a higher standard, then that is all the more reason not to take actions which would give rise to damaging criticism.


If you are a trail blazer that is all the most reason to make sure you are above reproach. Jeremy Miles could equally have been said to be a trailblazer as the first Gay candidate for Welsh Party Leader and he made different choices.  Like every person of colour in Wales Vaughan has been subject to racism. But the judgments he made to take such outsized donations from controversial sources is on Vaughan alone.*


From my point of view the situation could have been salvaged at several points if he had been willing to confront his own error of judgement. But at every stage he compounded it. And even to the last sought to deflect blame onto others. 


I’ve never thought Vaughan Gething was dishonest or dishonourable. But he showed terrible judgement which the longer he refused to concede did undermine him in people’s minds. In the YouGov poll published two days before the General Election voters were asked how well they though he was doing. 0% sent ‘very well’, and only 12% said fairly well.


It is clear that Vaughan very sincerely does not believe that he did anything wrong. And for me that was the fundamental problem. 


One of the reasons why the last three months has been so painful in the Welsh Labour Party is that the schism that has surfaced has revealed a genuine tension in values. I literally felt sick when I felt compelled to speak out against what I saw as ‘norm spoiling’ behaviour; and when my cry of pain was ignored I made myself ill with the thought of endorsing this amorality in a confidence vote. I couldn't do it, and didn’t do it.


I drafted a private note to Vaughan which in the end I didn’t send as he hadn’t responded to any of my messages, but it summed up how I felt:


I know you think you are being held to a higher standard than others. I honestly don’t - unless you are comparing donations at a UK level that we have rightly condemned. 


It is a terrible argument to make, and one contradicted by your decision to advise the UK party that they should not keep the underspend. If it was a problem for them to use it, why wasn’t it a problem for you? 


The argument that you won’t be involved in any decisions is disingenuous and beside the point. It reinforces the view that we are slippery, venal and insincere. 


The polls now clearly show that this has cut-through and people feel you should not have taken the donation, and having taken it should give it back. 


The way you have dealt with the situation has revealed further character traits that clash with the values I expect from a leader


"Everyone has to look at themselves and what they've done” Vaughan Gething said in his first interview after he announced he couldn’t carry on. Sadly he was directing this at others.


We now have to try and come together and heal. But lets learn the lessons of these torrid few months - the best way to resolve disagreements is to address them openly and honestly. People don’t like divided parties, but they like dishonest ones even less.








* The preceding three paragraphs were revised for clarity on 30th July from this original text:

People will make their own minds up about this. I am very conscious about my limits in being able to make a fair judgement, but I don’t deny that this is what some felt deeply. But it is perhaps fair to say that if this analysis is correct, and Vaughan was being held to a higher standard, then that is all the more reason not to take such outsized donations from controversial sources which would give rise to damaging criticism. If you are a trail blazer that is all the most reason to make sure you are above reproach.  And that’s on Vaughan alone.

Comments

Welsh Guy said…
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Anonymous said…
@Welsh Guy it’s called the “Senedd”. Far from being rambling, this is a thoughtful post on a very complex issue. Thank you Lee for setting out your thoughts here.

The only issue for me is your assessment here on the racial issue, where you say if he was being held to a higher standard there was all the more reason for him to be essentially squeaky clean. The point is being made that had Jeremy Miles or another white man taken the donation they wouldn’t have been criticised in the same way. It doesn’t negate much of what you’ve said, but it is a key point which I think you have misunderstood, and therefore not addressed. Ultimately though it is clear that whoever that person was who took the money you would not have supported them.
Sarah Shuffell said…
It has been a regretful and slightly ignominious end to what was a bright and thoughtful political career. Latterly, Gething has ‘cast adrift’ from the people of Wales but, I fear, he is not alone in such sentiment amongst Senedd colleagues. At best it might be said to be complacency, at worst outright hubris.
And yes, a unity candidate smacks of back room deals, disdainful and disregarding of a watchful electorate. Cries of ‘we do things differently in Wales’ ring hollow to an electorate weary of politicians who put party first and people second. Most telling are the communities in The Valleys who, in the recent election, gave a nod to Reform. These are traditional Labour voters, economically left and socially right, not fascists or bigots but communities who feel that Labour has shifted its values and priorities away from the grass roots in pursuit of an elitist liberal agenda.
Right now it feels like Welsh Labour are about to rearrange the deck chairs on the Titanic. But this just won’t do. Time to get a grip. Time to reconnect with the hard working families and communities of Wales with a vision and plan that inspires ordinary people to believe in a party who has their backs. I sincerely hope that courage wins over complacency.
Anonymous said…
I think it’s a very considered response. The taking of the donation was wrong, against the party policy on the leadership contest and it should have been returned. In his speech he deflected the blame to others and did not ( in my view) accept any personal responsibility. To me that characteristic does not hold any place in someone in a leadership role whether in politics or any other role and therefore it’s only right that he has eventually stepped down. However, he did so because 4 cabinet members resigned from their positions , he should have stepped down at the vote of no confidence. I hope that whoever finds themself as the next leader is able to use their leadership to yes foster unity but to drive change for Wales
Anonymous said…
You’re just trying to justify the idiotic decisions you’ve made. You’ve given an open goal to a Plaid leader who clearly is hostile to Labour & who will not work with you - as well as giving the other parties an opportunity to unite & dislodge Labour.
Disloyal & the architect of bringing Labour to its knees. This rambling discourse does nothing but prove you are unsuitable for office.
al thor said…
the man who donated to gething donated to other welsh politicians before. no one said anything. until ofcourse gething got a donation from him.

it was a witch hunt from the beginning. from the miles cohort and enabled by plaid cymru

they got rid of a decent man and one can also argue if race was a factor.

Maximus said…
A thoughtful, incisive and insightful analysis of the situation that Welsh Labour finds itself in. A hefty read that's worth the time and effort. That's the thing with unpacking a complex situation, it can't be done in soundbites.

I would explain the concept of 'Blanket' bans for the other contributor, but feel the effort would be wasted. A bit like explaining Norway to a cat.
Stephen said…
I agree with Maximus here. If people in Wales cared as much about child poverty or homelessness the way they cared about the 20 mph limit then perhaps we would have a better society

This appears to be a very fair and accurate assessment of the situation that Mr Gething created.

As for the 1st poster, despite the post being too long and rambling you still managed to get to the end to make a daft comment about 20 mph limits, well done you. (Oh, and it’s loser, not looser !)



Anonymous said…
Pretend to be Gething’s friend on the one hand then stab him in the back with the other. Clown. Your appalling, patronising behaviour towards the people of Wales when rolling out the blanket 20mph was your downfall Lee. It’s about time you resigned
Anonymous said…
You were so far out of touch with the public over the blanket 20mph (and Welsh Labour continues to be so). Waters/Drakeford/Gethin now gone and whoever comes next...... Anyone with a braincell could see it was never going to work, despite personal feedback explaining why, you just buried your head in the sand. It's opened the eyes to so many how bad Welsh Labour currently is. If they lose the next Senedd election, it's not too much of an overreach say it's mostly your fault. You are getting everything you deserve by meddling in people's lives, rather than listening to and representing those people.
Anonymous said…
A thoughtful blog well worth the read. I understand your considerations and feel sad that you and Hannah had to go through this awful few months. My view of various MSs & Cabinet members has been shattered, as a Labour member and it will take a great deal for these people to win back my respect of them. The treatment of Hannah was atrocious.
I remain a socialist but up to the next Senedd election I will constantly be reviewing MS statements and behaviours.

I remain highly respectful of you and Hannah and as a past whistleblower in public services I empathise with both of you and your continuing integrity.

A Torfaen Labour member
Michael said…
A very astute analysis of an unfortunate period for the Welsh Labour Party, and it has wider resonance for other parties and their leaders as well. Nobody expects that a human being is infallible - even a leader will make honest mistakes from time to time. The key as Mr Waters says is to admit the mistake as soon as it becomes apparent, apologise, make amends if possible, and move on. Denial and obfuscation (as frequently demonstrated by former UK PM Mr Johnson) causes the hole one has begun to get deeper and deeper, such that eventually there is no way to climb out of it. I look forward to an open and honest debate in Welsh Labour about the future direction they wish to take - and the leader they wish to select to take us all there!
Anonymous said…
Agree wholeheartedly with assessment
Anonymous said…
A really thoughtful and insightful piece but I do wonder whether we should look at a little deeper at the issue of discrimination.

The current Welsh Labour leader and First Minister is very different in many ways to his predecessors. He broke a number of glass ceilings in what can look to many like a closed shop. The first non-Welsh born, the first non-Welsh speaker and the first from an ethnic minority background. This was an exciting moment for those who saw an opportunity for not just someone who looks different but is different. I saw two early interviews with S4C with the First Minister. Early questions were not about donations or party unity but about how long it would take him to improve his Welsh language skills.

I don’t disagree with the case and need for change. But what is the message to those who aren’t moulded in the cast of all previous leaders that political life in Wales is something for them.
JOJ said…
A long analysis, parts of which I agree with. Pointing too some similarities with the SNP is fair enough. An important reason for their decline were policy failures. Strangely in this long articles Lee finds no space for the impact of policies of the Senedd.
VG was criticised on the doorstefp but not as often as policy problems. Prominent amongst them a certain speed restriction.
Anonymous said…
Should become a fiction writer...Mr Waters is and was part of the problem
Paul Graves-Brown said…
I'm sure there is a lot in what you have to say. But what really concerns me is the broader political situation within which this debacle is taking place. I was really shocked by the general election result here in Llanelli, perhaps I shouldn't have been surprised. I gather that Reform came second in 12 constituencies in Wales. I hope to goodness that Welsh Labour is not becoming a hollow tree because the real danger lies not with Plaid but the extreme right represented by Farage. Indeed I can envisage a time when we might need a Popular Front (a la France) with the likes of Plaid to stand against what are to all intents and purposes fascists. My main hope is that a UK Labour government can change the agenda sufficiently to disarm the appeal of the far right. And for a Welsh Labour government to regain a sense of radicalism it will need practical help from westminster to demonstrate that it can make Wales a better place.
Zoe Cymru said…
Lee, would you consider putting your hat in the ring so that we have a contest and not a coronation?
Anonymous said…
Could I ask if this is a note to Llanelli CLP members, why have you made it public? Thank you.
Lee Waters said…
It’s the equivalent of an open letter. I’d written it for local members but could be of interest to a wider audience
Annibendod said…
I have a great deal of respect for Lee Waters. I believe him to be a man of integrity. He has been willing on a number of occasions to commit the political sin of saying what he honestly thinks. That is his best attribute IMHO. I am grateful to read his perspective on the events of the last few months or so. Speaking as a Plaid Cymru member who has sought to unseat both him and Nia Griffiths on several occasions, I would like those of you who support Labour to understand this from a Plaid perspective. When the details of the donation became public and the very dodgy affair with Unite, I was deeply concerned that you would provide us with a First Minister with a clear conflict of interest. I am personally a socialist but I am foremostly a believer in democracy. This is what drives me to seek a democratic State for Wales and has led me to supporting Plaid's pursuit of this worthy aim. In that light, the Senedd is very important to me. It is a democratic expression of our political nationhood, unfinished though it might be. There are many who would see it wiped from existence and Welsh Nationhood extinguished once and for all. Putting a compromised First Minister in post is a gift to those people. Vaughan Gething and by extension, Welsh Labour brought the Senedd into disrepute. That goes beyond policy differences. I am very angry about it. Ego before nation. That's what it looks like to me. Lee's perspective appears to confirm my suspicions.

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